#social 2015-07-26

2015-07-26 UTC
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cwebber_remote
o/
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cwebber_remote
I just shot off what I think is a pretty interesting email about Matrix to the SocialWG list
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melvster
aaronpk: an inbox is not the same as a social stream
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melvster
it's *really* unproductive to have half the conversation on IRC and half on the ML ... ive started a thread on the ML, let's try and nail down the definitions there?
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melvster
this is a user story with 15 +1s
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melvster
people are implementing it
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melvster
dont move the goal posts please
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melvster
but by all means lets work out what the terms mean
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aaronpk
is re-reading the user story
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aaronpk
"Jake is bored at work. He checks his social inbox stream to see what his friends, family, and coworkers are up to."
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aaronpk
every other line starts with "Jake sees in his social stream..."
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aaronpk
melvster: so if "inbox" is not the same as a "social stream" then you should be the first one excited to rename this story to "read social streams" so that you can propose an actual "inbox" story
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melvster
aaronpk: let's not change the user stories now ... it's too late ... everyone will want to reword every one ... ill be delighted to hear your feedback on the ML, and happy to discuss tho
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aaronpk
i don't know what thread you're talking about on the mailing list
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aaronpk
and it's not changing the story
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melvster
it sure is
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aaronpk
no, literally no text of the story would change
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aaronpk
the story says "social stream" everywhere
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aaronpk
anyway, we can get others' opinions on the call
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melvster
ok not sure if i can make the call, but im a -1 i put that on the wiki, we should complete feedback on the ML first, if you dont follow the ML like tantek i suggest you do that
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melvster
this is really slowing down progress
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aaronpk
do you mean the email with the subject line "inboxes and outboxes" that has no replies?
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melvster
IRC is totally unproductive
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melvster
honestly
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aaronpk
you should see how productive indiewebcamp IRC is, it just depends on the players :)
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melvster
but the whole group has implemented 1 user story in 5 years
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melvster
and not even using the syntax of this group
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melvster
i totally disagree irc is productive
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melvster
it's slowing us down massively
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melvster
look how far behind the deliverables are
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melvster
irc is OK for telecons
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melvster
but NOT ok to split discussion
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melvster
it seems just to be a way to torpedo progress
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melvster
i really think you guys should use the ML
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melvster
like other w3c WG's
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melvster
perhaps get the deliverables back on track
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KevinMarks
!meme Full speed ahead | damn the torpedoes! SWAT0
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KevinMarks
!meme Full speed ahead | damn the torpedoes! [SWAT0]
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Loqi
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